Should Tax Money Be Used to Stop Consensual Sex?

I can’t figure out why adult consensual prostitution is illegal.  If two consenting adults want to boil down their brief relationship encounter to an exchange of dollars for “services” why should I care?  Is it breaking down the moral fibers of society? If so, shouldn’t society be broken considering it is known as the world’s oldest profession.  If it was going to break down society it would have happened a long time ago*.  If anything someone pretending to be interested in a person and actually pretending to love them in exchange for goods and cash should be illegal! At least then there is fraud.

I know it is a pretty shitty attitude to have but since I don’t use their services I just don’t care enough to do anything about the legality.  Just like since I don’t smoke marijuana I don’t really feel the need to take up the fight (although I think that should be legal also).  Besides what the hell would I possibly do anyway? A Million Ho Walk? A letter writing campaign? I bet protests would be more fun than those asses at occupy wall street.

I think what angers me the most is the man hours (dirty pun in there somewhere) used to enforce the laws.  Recently there was a huge sting on Long Island to catch “Johns,” their real names were then released to the press destroying how many lives?  What about the kid who did nothing whose dad’s face is now in the newspaper? Some ass will say he should have thought about that.  What?! Someone looking to get off should have thought about his son when he paid an adult who made a choice to get others off for cash? No dice.  Hell, there is no guarantee of a mugshot in the paper if you robbed or kidnapped someone…you know, REAL CRIMES.

I can’t figure out why Nassau County Police and the D.A.’s office is so proud of this sting.  The NY Post reported,

The Nassau County District Attorney’s office released a list of 104 men — including finance honchos, lawyers, doctors and dentists — who solicited undercover officers posing as hookers during a roughly one-month sting operation, officials announced today.

Conducted between April 18 and May 24, “Operation Flush the Johns” posted four ads on the Web site backpage.com — one that offered a man to pleasure women, one that offered male to male sex and two others that offered women to please men.

Those caught in the sting — aged between 17 to 79 — were all men with the vast majority responding to the ads that offered female company

Wait a minute you arrested 3 people a day and you are proud of that?  How many cops were working that case versus stopping or investigating serious crimes? It is mind numbing to think how many cops were used to arrest an average of 3 people a day.  Now the Court gets to deal with the prosecution.  Way to go D.A. Rice! You should be so proud.  Most will eventually plead down to nothing and guess what…just like everyday since the beginning of recorded time some guy out there will buy sex from some woman.  Put a sting out there for Crack you’d probably arrest 104 people in 3 days with half the man power.

 

*If you want to know why I think prostitution is illegal is that most women are disgusted by it and thus the men they control also now believe that it is vile.  Thus, it is an easy target to attack politically.  Who is going to stand up for hookers and escorts publicly?

25 Responses to Should Tax Money Be Used to Stop Consensual Sex?

  1. Interesting to see a political/moral rant on here from you. Have to say I love it and couldn’t agree more. Why not legalize it and garner the additional tax revenue and re-purpose law enforcement towards real crimes.

  2. I don’t think we should spend a lot of money enforcing prostitution laws either. Maybe if we make it legal, we can control it better.

    • Evan says:

      Tax it, license the escorts, etc. Will be those that skirt the law? OF COURSE just like there are gypsy cabs, unlicensed practice of medicine, etc.

  3. Chadnudj says:

    I agree that it maybe shouldn’t be an enforcement priority, but prostitution is rarely if ever truly “consensual.” In most/many instances, we’re talking about women who turned to prostitution out of economic desperation, at the hands of an abusive spouse/boyfriend, due to illegal sex trafficking, due to drug addiction, and/or because of sexual/physical/emotional abuse.

    Ideally, our law enforcement/treatment/government priorities could shift towards those issues (treating drug addiction, preventing sexual trafficking, reducing domestic abuse, stopping sex abuse, making a better social safety net so fewer need to turn to sex for cash), and then we could set up safe, legal prostitution for the small handful of women/men who still chose to do so, which would tax the act and ensure that the prostitutes themselves were truly “consensual” participants with attendant counseling and health screenings.

    • Chadnudj says:

      In other words, as someone wisely said, “no little girl says I want to be a prostitute when I grow up.”

      • Evan says:

        To be fair I don’t think any little girl says, I want to work at burger king either (although who doesn’t love a freaking whopper?). I don’t mean to compare working over french fries as to working over some ugly fat dude with terrible breath…but sometimes you do what you have to do. Now imagine if the social stigma was gone at least?

  4. krantcents says:

    Interesting! Nevada has legal prostitution and nothing bad has occurred. If anything, the sex workers are checked medically often and there is less drug addiction. I am not advocating prostitution, but there are more important issues we should be concerned about such as (guns or otherwise) violence and other crime in the U. S.

  5. Andrew says:

    I agree that the real names being released to the press is really unnecessary. There’s already a big problem with bullying in school…this is not gonna help those kids. And also agree that our tax dollars can be better spent in other areas. Although, Chadnudj does make a valid point about women who are kidnapped and are forced into prostitution. That would be something that I think that law enforcement can focus on. Maybe if it was legal, then forced prostitution would be less prevalent? I don’t know…

    • Evan says:

      ” Maybe if it was legal, then forced prostitution would be less prevalent?”

      In my opinion this would be 100% true. If you frequent prostitutes why would you choose the sketchy back ally choice vs the legal easy one? How much money could you possibly be saving…and at what cost?

  6. If you agree that the government should have a claim over your body, then they should be allowed to make rules about what you do with it. If you believe an individual owns his or her body, so long as they don’t use their body to injure another person, then you have to believe prostitution is legally permissible even if you have moral objections to it.

    • Evan says:

      Really really interesting point! How does one say abortion should be legal and then say prostitution should be illegal? I like that argument.

  7. As George Carlin used to say, “Selling is legal. F&%#ing is legal. Why isn’t selling F#$@ing legal?”

    Let’s make it legal, make is safe (as noted above about Nevada), and tax the hell out of it.

    Then maybe we’ll have the money to enforce the law on stopping pyramid schemes like Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing BEFORE they cost hundreds of thousands of people tens of millions of dollars.

  8. Paul N says:

    In Canada it’s really very grey. Your not supposed to make a direct transaction for it. For example : You pay for a “massage” and you “tip” for the extras but your “saying” your tipping for the massage. So in a sense the sexual act you agree on is for free.

    I have heard “workers” in the trade discuss this issue in the news here. They claim 1 out of every 2 condominium buildings anywhere you go will have several apt’s within used for the sex trade. They use the buildings front lobby camera to screen the clients and the free visitors parking. People coming and going are like any other visiting, you won’t draw a lot of attn.

    I too agree, as long as the women aren’t forced into it or abused or most importantly – underage, I see nothing wrong with it. Contrary to one of the above posters, many of the girls just take the job as any other job. They are not abused. They have developed intelligent methods to screen and reject unwanted clients. They also develop kind of weird relationships (to the average person) + have repeat clients. They are like cheap therapy to some.

    The allure of making $8.00 an hour (+ possibly being mentally abused and having to keep that job to survive just as you would the other) in a restaurant ($400.00/wk) vs. $2500.00 to $5000.00+ per week or in some cases in one day!(tax free) definitely plays a part. Sometimes it’s just something as simple as playing the hot GF while your at a casino, no sex. Not everyone has the opportunity to make that kind of cash and the world can’t offer everyone that kind of pay range.(as noble as it sounds to write that everyone should have the opportunity).

    Having a service like this available without guilt or penalty, could also be a deterrent from someone assaulting someone for sex. There is good and bad to this and it’s not going to go away. So like others said – why not make it into something that’s safer for the workers in the trade (and clients) and make it into a business, which could have spin-off benefits with taxation etc.

    I have to tip my hat to you writing about this as you can easily have an onslaught of “hate” replies over just the mention of the subject. I recently found out I had a friend working in this industry. It was a bit of a shock at first, had some long talks about this. There are truly some amazing stories to hear if your a good listener.

    • Evan says:

      I have to tip my hat to you writing about this as you can easily have an onslaught of “hate” replies over just the mention of the subject.
      - I am SHOCKED I didn’t get more hate comments. SHOCKED. I think for the most part people agree with me but can’t express it for social reasons.

      I recently found out I had a friend working in this industry. It was a bit of a shock at first, had some long talks about this
      - Curious how that came out? To what extent is she involved?

      • Paul N says:

        Part time Escort… has a day job. Was kind of making jokes about it. I asked if I could ask some questions because I was obviously curious. (I guess nosey might be more truthful).

        She explained how the money was divided, how she screens clients, where she goes to do her “work”, who she won’t deal with and why. (I found that particularly interesting – certain people try to re-negotiate the price after or think they can be rough so she avoids them) You would think a $100.00 bill is the same value from everyone. Nope.

        The “date” style work brings the most money. After repeat visits from a regular client sometimes they are asked out to accompany them to an event, casino, or even a dinner date. Those long dates bring in a lot of cash. Plus the client is usually “nice” and like I mentioned earlier a weird bond is formed. She has even known some girls that wind up the GF of a client leading to even serious relationships. Pretty woman anyone?

        The subject is touchy as you can see from the wide variety of replies so far. It would take a lot of time to debate every point. Every girls situation is different.

  9. The issue with prostitution is human trafficking. Many women are not in the business willingly. Here in the Phoenix area the feds busted a human trafficking operation that, amazingly, occupied property in a very upscale area. The women and girls had been brought here from foreign countries and were essentially slaves.

    If prostitutes could be accepted socially as businesswomen (and men, as some are), allowed to practice their trade in safety and in clean, well regulated businesses, and protected from predation by pimps and by customers, IMHO the practice would be a lot less objectionable. Personally, though, I”m not thrilled by the hookers who pick up johns where our neighborhood streets open onto the main drag, right across the road from a middle school.

    I’m with slug, BTW: nothing like a good rant to liven up a blog! :-D

    • Evan says:

      “Personally, though, I”m not thrilled by the hookers who pick up johns where our neighborhood streets open onto the main drag, right across the road from a middle school”

      EXACTLY! So imagine that was controlled. There would be a place NOT near a school and the girls were licensed and checked out! How would you enforce it? That is a diff issue but I know if I was going to a prostitute I would be happy to pay more for the safety (even if it is just perceived safety).

      • Exactly. What we need is Mustang Ranch zoning. Some cities in the US used to have exactly that.

        Prostitution is not going away. So much better to regulate to keep the girls (and boys) reasonably healthy and safe, and to collect taxes on revenues rather than wasting taxpayer money trying to chase people off the streets.

  10. I think the issue is what is actually “consensual”. Human trafficking is a major problem and many others are forced into prostitution. Legalizing it would only increase these major problems.

    • Evan says:

      I really disagree, Michael.

      “Legalizing it would only increase these major problems.”
      - If you are going to get a hooker would you go with the one with licenses and was checked out or the trafficked girl?

  11. Sam says:

    I live in Nevada where it is legal in some counties, the places are safe clean, pay taxes, and are well regulated with few problems. It is not legal in the bigger cities, and when the Mayor of Las Vegas said he would like it to be legalized the majority of people claimed to be against it. This is one of those subjects where common sense will never prevail.

  12. Evan says:

    Wait a min prostitution isn’t legal in Vegas?!

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