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		<title>By: phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 04:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to say that there are still many missing elements.

-if you start a family late in life ie mid to late 30s you are going to have to buy additional term in your early 60s or 50s and it will cost you quite a bit.
-if you buy for your children early in life you can borrow against it for college in addition, if you have girls and they marry an idiot they will have something to fall back on
-it is a great investment if you have maxed out your other qualified and non qualified plans
-borrow against and pay yourself back how can you go wrong
-if you stick with a firm like northwesterm mutual you will do great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to say that there are still many missing elements.</p>
<p>-if you start a family late in life ie mid to late 30s you are going to have to buy additional term in your early 60s or 50s and it will cost you quite a bit.<br />
-if you buy for your children early in life you can borrow against it for college in addition, if you have girls and they marry an idiot they will have something to fall back on<br />
-it is a great investment if you have maxed out your other qualified and non qualified plans<br />
-borrow against and pay yourself back how can you go wrong<br />
-if you stick with a firm like northwesterm mutual you will do great.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 2nd Year&#039;s 839 is in under the Additions Column so the total of the 2nd year is under EOY (End of Year) balance.  I hope that helps out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 2nd Year&#8217;s 839 is in under the Additions Column so the total of the 2nd year is under EOY (End of Year) balance.  I hope that helps out.</p>
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		<title>By: fred jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In your buy term and invest the difference chart you show the first year that you invest 839 dollars.  The second year you show that growing to 880.95.  However, you forgot to add in a second year&#039;s investment of another $839.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your buy term and invest the difference chart you show the first year that you invest 839 dollars.  The second year you show that growing to 880.95.  However, you forgot to add in a second year&#8217;s investment of another $839.</p>
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		<title>By: Remember the Main Reason to Obtain Life Insurance &#124; My Journey to Millions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Remember the Main Reason to Obtain Life Insurance &#124; My Journey to Millions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 05:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (or donâ€™t care about) what the main purpose of life insurance is.Â  This post is going to ignore whether you should buy term or whore life, or whether you can create your own pension using whole life insurance, or whether you should buy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (or donâ€™t care about) what the main purpose of life insurance is.Â  This post is going to ignore whether you should buy term or whore life, or whether you can create your own pension using whole life insurance, or whether you should buy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure if I ran the same illustration right now, I would get a different result.  Taxes are taken into account indirectly, by using a Net return.   

I think you&#039;d like my post on using a whole life product to create an income stream:

http://www.myjourneytomillions.com/articles/create-your-own-pension-using-whole-life-insurance/

You are 100% correct this is not for the guy putting $1,000/yr into his Roth IRA! But I hate those standard gems, like whole life is a worthless prodcut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure if I ran the same illustration right now, I would get a different result.  Taxes are taken into account indirectly, by using a Net return.   </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;d like my post on using a whole life product to create an income stream:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.myjourneytomillions.com/articles/create-your-own-pension-using-whole-life-insurance/" rel="nofollow">http://www.myjourneytomillions.com/articles/create-your-own-pension-using-whole-life-insurance/</a></p>
<p>You are 100% correct this is not for the guy putting $1,000/yr into his Roth IRA! But I hate those standard gems, like whole life is a worthless prodcut.</p>
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		<title>By: EOW</title>
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		<dc:creator>EOW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for fun I ran some quick numbers with a AAA rated mutual insurance company.  I used the same set up as you: $115k DB, $12k/yr premium, male, 28, second best rating.  At the end of year 21 it is projected to have $38,501.76 in cash value and $186,659.90 in death benefit.  The key to these policies is the funding.  Most insurance people don&#039;t truly understand how to properly fund a policy.

As for the investment account, there&#039;s a couple of huge unknowns.  Such as what rate of return you&#039;ll actually get over the 20 years.  Also taxes.  Why aren&#039;t taxes taken into account?  This strategy isn&#039;t for everyone and it isn&#039;t targeted to the guy that is trying to put $1,000 into his Roth IRA.  For more advanced people it can really sing.

You forgot one more cost of term insurance, opportunity cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for fun I ran some quick numbers with a AAA rated mutual insurance company.  I used the same set up as you: $115k DB, $12k/yr premium, male, 28, second best rating.  At the end of year 21 it is projected to have $38,501.76 in cash value and $186,659.90 in death benefit.  The key to these policies is the funding.  Most insurance people don&#8217;t truly understand how to properly fund a policy.</p>
<p>As for the investment account, there&#8217;s a couple of huge unknowns.  Such as what rate of return you&#8217;ll actually get over the 20 years.  Also taxes.  Why aren&#8217;t taxes taken into account?  This strategy isn&#8217;t for everyone and it isn&#8217;t targeted to the guy that is trying to put $1,000 into his Roth IRA.  For more advanced people it can really sing.</p>
<p>You forgot one more cost of term insurance, opportunity cost.</p>
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		<title>By: mzeiter</title>
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		<dc:creator>mzeiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks EVan
I place much high dividend whole life ins to dentists and small business owners
Who already have other equity planning in place
Remember it is not meant to replace other accumulation planning but only add to existing planning by oFfering all the benefits I mentioned above that u don&#039;t get with equity investments as a stand alone.
Most of all the term I sell,with the exception of larger business term policies, are to folks who are not educated in retirement planning andwwlll say they will invest the rest but never do it
Hopefully this message comes with only few typos
From my blackberry phone. SOrry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks EVan<br />
I place much high dividend whole life ins to dentists and small business owners<br />
Who already have other equity planning in place<br />
Remember it is not meant to replace other accumulation planning but only add to existing planning by oFfering all the benefits I mentioned above that u don&#8217;t get with equity investments as a stand alone.<br />
Most of all the term I sell,with the exception of larger business term policies, are to folks who are not educated in retirement planning andwwlll say they will invest the rest but never do it<br />
Hopefully this message comes with only few typos<br />
From my blackberry phone. SOrry</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that is a mouthful!  Thanks for adding</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that is a mouthful!  Thanks for adding</p>
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		<title>By: MZeiter</title>
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		<dc:creator>MZeiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whole Life vs Equity investments
Facts 
1.It&#039;s given that Income Taxes will be increasing in all our lifetimes going forward.
2. Retirement planning must include safety of principal and guaranteed growth instruments.
3. Tax free distributions are golden at  retirement with all the tax we will be expected to pay.
4. If you become permenantly disabled , &quot;can you still contribute and achieve your retirement goals&quot;? No work no income, Right?
5.What has the equity market&#039;s contributed to American investers bucket&#039;s from 1998 to 2009? about ZERO.

Whole life, &quot;complimenting a sensible equity retirement investment&quot;,will result in the following benefits:

A)as good or faster growth 
B)guaranteed retirement vs non guaranteed 
C)Death benefit(much higer than values vs no death benefit (only non guaranteed account)
(Remember love for family should be based on guarantees, and not end upon your death!)
D)Distributions are TAX FREE vs Taxable distributions at Marginal Tax rates of North of 40%. Wow what a chunk.
E)Upon permanent disibility(Whole life with waiver of premium) contributions continue for life(full anticipated cash accumulation and death benefit) vs Zero contribution ability(no work no income)results in very vulnerable retirement and death protection for your loved ones. 
F) If equity markets fail you especially years before retirement like many have experienced...your hedge or &quot;saving grace&quot; will be the whole life....Not the equity.
If the market does well...woudn&#039;t it be great to have both buckets filled...meeting your retirement goals? 
In conclusion...if you love someone,not just yourself, and can understand that the words safety, guarantees, predictability are synonymous with the word Love, have a respectable, honest, and knowledgable Advisor show you how this is done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whole Life vs Equity investments<br />
Facts<br />
1.It&#8217;s given that Income Taxes will be increasing in all our lifetimes going forward.<br />
2. Retirement planning must include safety of principal and guaranteed growth instruments.<br />
3. Tax free distributions are golden at  retirement with all the tax we will be expected to pay.<br />
4. If you become permenantly disabled , &#8220;can you still contribute and achieve your retirement goals&#8221;? No work no income, Right?<br />
5.What has the equity market&#8217;s contributed to American investers bucket&#8217;s from 1998 to 2009? about ZERO.</p>
<p>Whole life, &#8220;complimenting a sensible equity retirement investment&#8221;,will result in the following benefits:</p>
<p>A)as good or faster growth<br />
B)guaranteed retirement vs non guaranteed<br />
C)Death benefit(much higer than values vs no death benefit (only non guaranteed account)<br />
(Remember love for family should be based on guarantees, and not end upon your death!)<br />
D)Distributions are TAX FREE vs Taxable distributions at Marginal Tax rates of North of 40%. Wow what a chunk.<br />
E)Upon permanent disibility(Whole life with waiver of premium) contributions continue for life(full anticipated cash accumulation and death benefit) vs Zero contribution ability(no work no income)results in very vulnerable retirement and death protection for your loved ones.<br />
F) If equity markets fail you especially years before retirement like many have experienced&#8230;your hedge or &#8220;saving grace&#8221; will be the whole life&#8230;.Not the equity.<br />
If the market does well&#8230;woudn&#8217;t it be great to have both buckets filled&#8230;meeting your retirement goals?<br />
In conclusion&#8230;if you love someone,not just yourself, and can understand that the words safety, guarantees, predictability are synonymous with the word Love, have a respectable, honest, and knowledgable Advisor show you how this is done.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cash value is generally lower than death benefit, and disappears upon death, but the family has the higher death benefit.  

I think that answers your questions.
.-= Evan&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/myjourneytomillions/feed/~3/BNX8DDIyYb8/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama Wants your Tax Opinion! Are you Freaking Serious?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cash value is generally lower than death benefit, and disappears upon death, but the family has the higher death benefit.  </p>
<p>I think that answers your questions.<br />
.-= Evan&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/myjourneytomillions/feed/~3/BNX8DDIyYb8/" rel="nofollow">Obama Wants your Tax Opinion! Are you Freaking Serious?</a> =-.</p>
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